Season 2 · Episode 9 · 11 September 2026 · 53:16

How to Stop People Pleasing Before Burnout - Iris Muche

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About this episode

People pleasing rarely looks like a problem.

It looks like being dependable, reliable, the one who always says yes. Chris Wilson sits down with Vienna-based psychosocial counsellor, trainer, and author Iris Muche to explore how people pleasing quietly drives burnout: the productivity-lovability link, where the pattern comes from, and what the first honest no actually feels like. Drawing on her own burnout and years of professional psychosocial training, Iris reframes people pleasing not as a weakness but as a learned pattern you can begin to change. If you are exhausted from always being available and cannot work out why, this one names it.

Find Iris:

website www.irismuche.com , Instagram @irismuche.

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Content note: This episode contains a personal account of burnout including a period of intense despair. If you're struggling, please reach out to someone you trust.

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